I've opened this thread again for Flowerladys sake. please dont hijack it just yet.

Are we sitting comfortable? if so let us begin.


this above is Polemoniun yesoense var hidakanum, its found in the mountains in Japan. It flowers mid summer till October ish. It has the largest and deepest blue flower of all the Pole's. In about 1995 Ray Brown of Plant World Seeds noticed a slightly darker one so he grew it on and selected it and selected till he ended up with P. 'Purple Rain'. Several years later Bressinghams have done a similar one, called P. 'Bressingham Purple'

If you collect seeds off any of these it reverts back to P.yesoense var hidakanum. Only 1% will come true and also Polemoniums prefer shade or semi shade, full sun stresses the plant out. You need to stress this one out to give the full colour. so give it full sun but well watered. This is what you will get.

Ooooooooooooo thank you! How beauuuutiful

Think I need to move my Bressingham Purple cos it will get sun a lot in summer

My BP is paler than yours ... assume too much sun?

MUST have a dark throw back too ... will start collecting seed

I've got one as it was nominated as county wildflower of Derbyshire so it's a must-have round here

If its a genuine BP just stress it a little, but might have to wait till July time. But becarefull there is a lot of nurseries selling seed raised plants, which wont be true and should not be sold as that, but should be sold a s P. yesoense var hidakanum. A large national mail order company is doing this (dont panic Bagpuss I wont name them on here), there is even a seed company selling seed of a sterile hybrid polemonium, clever ehh?

the label of mine is actually a Bressing effort so perhaps I do have the real thing!! ...

shall watch it with interest!!

do they come in pink?

Blue, white, cream, purple, yellow and pink, inc all the shades from pink to purple

Think I will be coming to you to extend my collection!!

Do the leaves also change colours as per the PRain?

G2 I've got seedlings ... but I've lost the label how long do I have to wait to see the flowers???

Will be a bit late around August September, if at all this year

if its small it may wait till next year to flower, they live about 4 years. I hope you have it on a pot then you can stress it in the sun to bring out that real deep purple

SUN !! ... I stand no chance !!

I've still got some of those seeds you gave me G2 - it's not so ridiculously hot now - do you reckon sowing them now will be OK ??

yeah give it a bash, dont know if they will handle the heat long term

Ok mate I'll give them a go - I'll put them in a pot next to the giant spkiey thing who's name has gone completely out of my head Anyway it's the coolest part of my garden

The yellow P.paucifloriums are the ones my bets are on as they come from Mexico

Agave americanum - knew I'd remember

They were the ones I sowed yesterday