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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Rust on garlic ! Reply with quote

Is this the time to panic Question Or can I treat it?

Or do I dig it all up? Confused

Tried digging up one it's golf ball size, would be good to be a bit bigger?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think rust is a problem on garlic. I know they get it but I don't think it's detrimental. it stems from them being dry at the roots apparently
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm.. if it is rust i think icy told me that it spreads Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bummer Sad they are in the middle of my onions Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry it doesn't usually mean that your garlic bulbs will be affected. The rust on garlic is actually leek rust Very Happy It is caused by plants being too close together which creates humid conditions and over feeding. Comfrey is a good feed for garlic Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the smelly tea stuff that you make? Confused How dilute does it have to be?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1:15 or 1:20 thereabouts Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smell will certainly repel all invaders Laughing

How big do your garlic get before you dig them up? Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the leaves turn yellow and start flopping is when I dig mine up. Rust does spread - but I don't think it does any harm just makes things look unsightly Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought 1:10 but I make it in a bucket with water and Wardy makes it neat.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What size is considered to be good / avarage for garlic grown in England? Confused

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says on my instructions to pull the garlic in July. I wrote that on a spike and put it next to the garlic cos my memory is terrible and I'm not sure what to look for to know when they're ready. I suppose they flop over like onions Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wardy wrote:
I don't think rust is a problem on garlic. I know they get it but I don't think it's detrimental. it stems from them being dry at the roots apparently


I was told that if the rust is severe then pull the bulbs because they will become infected and useless. Mine did get very bad and so I pulled the crop and yes...a few bulbs were mouldy and had begun to break down.

To put that in perspective though the leaves were almost completely brown with rust so it was very severe. I reckon it may not be helped by being overwintered for those last year were nowhere near as bad. Makes sense cos as the spores are windborne there is a longer time for them to become infected.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Garlic rust is a typical problem. I get it each year but it doesn't seem to hurt the bulbs.

Garlic shouldn't be watered from now on in - if you're not careful the papery outer skins rot and then the bulbs don't store well. I've not watered mine at all this year and they're blooming huge. This was one I dug up green on Saturday to see how they were doing... and cos we'd run out of last year's!!!

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They say to dig them up when 10% of the bed has toppled over. Of course that works with the normal softneck stuff but I grow hardneck and it never topples! But I get the advantage of garlic scapes, which make the most wonderful pesto... yum.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not watered mine either and they look fab. My first crop Smile What's garlic scapes then MB? Do tell Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are garlic scapes ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they are the long stalk bit that gets the bud on top. you can liqidise them with olive oil, salt and toasted pinenuts for a delicious homemade pesto Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh right ta Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm ... as soon as I have finished the garlic supply at home then I think it will be time to get 'em out the the ground!! Razz

... like pesto this sounds good Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have just got back from the plot and some of the garlic are huge Very Happy

Was considering taking them up BEFORE we get any rain cos they are drying out nicely.

SOIL Shocked is like DUST Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a thread about WD-40 on A4A - does that get rust off? No good for me anyway as it says on there that the base ingeredient is fish oil. Will have to find out what's in the Halfords one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crikey thats a monster moonbells! What variety is it?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get rain today FL? It's been non-stop here, woke us up at 5 am it made such a racket Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't had a drop for ages ... and the local forecast says none till July 1st Shocked

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