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reedos · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: Carbon Neutral

This has been all over the news today, talking about schemes to counter balance the carbon emissions we all make, however having listened to both sides of today's argument, I'm really not too much the wiser. Like how many trees do I need to plant to balance having a car etc etc

Can anybody explain in words of one syllable what it's all about. I will look it up later but am about to try to learn the Greek alphabet Very Happy

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green2 · Prince Charming Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 927

All fuels have carbon dioxide in them, which is released as you burn it. Now if you burn a tree it releases CO2 which it has absorbed in it life, so you plant a new tree and it get sucked back in to a plant. A nice balanced cycle, and co2 stays same level in air.

But when we burn Dinofuels ie petrol coal diesel it is releasing co2 that has been stored underground for 1000s of years, so co2 levels have/are risen.

Some say ohh just plant a tree, but we have used and are using soo much dinofuel we can't plant enough trees to compensate. so carbon neutral is a big lie really, better to work on carbon footprint. Or as we say 'Reduce before you produce'

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Delilah · Site drunken fairy Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 3933

yup....tis far better to reduce using the car than plant a tree to compensate Exclamation

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reedos · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject:

Well I now walk to work (unless I'm late) Very Happy

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gormless · Doc Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 644

plant a tree in the car Rolling Eyes

one of them ever so nice tree airfreshners Laughing

Delilah · Site drunken fairy Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 3933

Gromsta............air fresheners are really not good for the environment Rolling Eyes

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gormless · Doc Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 644

neether are my smelly feet but i aint geting rid of em Laughing

frenchchique · Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 3506 Location: Kent

And all the time we forget they're still destructing the rain forest, well what's left of it.... Confused

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gormless · Doc Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 644

wellll i will have clean drains wont i Shocked

redimp · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject:

These schemes only exist to salve the conscience of the people who can't be arsed to do anything about changing the way they live and just think they can buy their way out of it. Tossers - those who run and profit from the schemes and those that use them. Evil or Very Mad

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reedos · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:

Say what you mean Ady Laughing

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green2 · Prince Charming Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 927

Ady put the British government on top of that list Crying or Very sad

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redimp · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject:

The Bliarites are on the top of every list labelled Tossers, Dave Evil or Very Mad

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green2 · Prince Charming Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 927

I have Gordon Brown on number 1 as he tries to stop me from running my van on green fuel while other countries including USA encourage it.

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Icyberjunkie · Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:

Trouble is that to properly do a carbon footprint is loads and loads of work and I'm concerned that to hit what they say they will the big retailers will cut corners which could make it a pointless excercise Sad

On the positive though if people do care it might see more use of local produce Very Happy

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green2 · Prince Charming Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 927

but the footprint is easier for peeps to understand and start reducing. Confused

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Icyberjunkie · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject:

Don't get me wrong I agree with the footprinting. I'm just concerned they will be rushed through and end up being wrong which means the press will rubbish it Confused

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Delilah · Site drunken fairy Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 3933

trouble is ................time is of the essence Exclamation

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loobytoo · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

frenchchique wrote:

And all the time we forget they're still destructing the rain forest, well what's left of it.... Confused

Gromsta

Did anyone see that newspaper article about someone wanting to build a ruddy great road from north to south, smack through the middle of the Amazon rainforest? Think it was the Express. Emergency on planet earth, indeed. Evil or Very Mad

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JAGS · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject:

Blinkin bonkers looby...............beggars belief.................... Evil or Very Mad

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reedos · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:36 am Post subject:

You should all come see what it is like here. The people have no awareness whatsoever of green issues.

We - I mean the UK are saints in comparison Twisted Evil

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Icyberjunkie · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:49 am Post subject:

Delilah wrote:

trouble is ................time is of the essence Exclamation

Yep, to little to late and all that Confused

Whats really needed though is the big corporations to put pressure on the countries that won't do anything. I mean its not going to do any good when the climate really goes ape to point out the morale high ground we're on and say "I told you so".

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