I knew it ... it's homework !!!

And agree with looby ... must have lipsalve

There's been lots of articles lately about carcinogens in shampoos

It takes me ages to do the shopping having to read the ingredients on food. If I have to read the labels on cosmetics as well I might lose the will to live.

Can I just have cosmateics with a label that says....nothing in here will hurt your kids......thanks

Just buy stuff from a trusted source, we get ours in bulk from places like Ecover and lots of organics, They do shampoo, shower gel , conditioner, etc etc, we dont buy Ecover loo cleaner cos tescos is cheaper and smells nicer

I try not to buy ecover because of their rolling 5 year rule.

It all just gets to complicated sometimes, I mean we all buy stuff in plastic and recycle like good little chaps and chapsesses but what about the pvc content do we check that, nope prolly not, well I don't. I do feel their has to be a limit somewhere and so long as we just try our best then we can't ask more than that.

What rolling 5 rule Del?

Tara, 'greenpeople' make good shampoos

it means that the manufacturer doens't include any ingredients tested on animals within the last five years, but, this isn't a fixed date so an ingredient maybe excluded one year coz it falls withing the last five years and then included the following year so the only difference is that the company delays using the product until it falls outside the 5 years...........I think

ahhhhh! sneaky

I buy Avalon organics shampoo, Tara - lots of their range here, with ingredients listed:

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- don't know what that site's like though, 'cos I get it in Waitrose or local health food shop. I buy the peppermint one because it's about the only one I've found which doesn't have citrus in it, but they do several others & soaps & stuff too - with no tricoslan, no parabens, & no artificial perfume.

R gets Duchy originals lime & bergamot shampoo, also from Waitrose - their stuff is pretty good too, but contains too much citrus for me.

theres Faith in Nature

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and these folks do Bio D mail order n'all, click on Household

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Oh Mr Reedos we need a links section in links for Health and Beauty stuff, I've got tonnes

Done

You can get both Faith in Nature/Clear Spring & Bio-D stuff from Natural Collection, too, & I think they are slightly cheaper:

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Thanks

their kids shampoo is NINE QUID!!!

sod that for a game of soldiers!

Is that the Soil Association certified one? I don't buy those!!! They do stock lots of other stuff!

The green people do one for ...yes.... about £7 or £8 BUT..... it lasts a very long time, honest.... You only need a tiny bit and those tubes are big

I noticed my Avalon one was £7.50 on the other site I posted - sure I didn't pay that much for it though - think it was nearer £5 or £6 ... yep, just checked, £5.50 for them on Waitrose site, though they don't have mine any more. R's Duchy one is £4.95. Just had another look at Natural Collection site too, & Faith in Nature shampoos are £3.55 there ... there's not a specific kids one, but I'd have thought it must be better for kids to use one of theirs than a kids one which is full of chemicals?

Did anyone see the How Toxic Are Your Kids programme, btw?

just back to lipsalve for a mo

would you gardening types prefer in stick form or in a little pot

stick...so you can apply it when your hands are muddy

thats what I was thinking, its just that the consistency of a stick is thicker and not as instantly moisturising

I have all manner of lip salves and moisturising lippy in my shed, and have to apply it about every hour or after a cuppa Same with hand cream
My skin is so dry that sometimes it feels like it's burning, espesh my forehead . Mind you when you're in a cold wind it probably does literally burn

the trouble with lipsalve is its vaseline (petroleum jelly based), its a barrier not a moisturiser so it simply sits on the surface of your lips giving the illusion of moisturisng, its not, so once you've licked it off it just needs to be reapplied.........its actually addictive

The only one I've found that's any good for any length of time is Blistex, which is a cream - so not much good with muddy hands But I generally only need to use two or three times a day

but it is petroleum based

I use olive oil