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SeedQueen



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Caterpillars Reply with quote

We are being plagued by the b****y things and I was wondering if there was an organic way to deal with them other than squishing them?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hand pick them,
put them in a bucket with a bit of netting on top (think locking stable stable door after horse has bolted Wink )
feed them the odd raggity leaf and watch them turn into flutterbys Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tara you're brilliant Very Happy I don't know why I didn't think of it before Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got them too now , zillions of them Shocked Decimated nearly a whole row of cabbages overnight Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes The ones the slugs and snails had left Rolling Eyes Sad
Sooooo apart from breeding them, what to do? Confused Would soapy water do the trick? As a deterrent, like Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like killing caterpillars Laughing you can use Derris liquid or dust.
I'd prefer Tara's route as I'm not a natural born killer of anything.

Bun bun was on my plot on Sunday when I went with my husband. First time he's seen it and it's now fully grown. They grow up so fast these days don't they Laughing

Derris liquid is now defunct but only just so you might still be able to lay your hands on it. Derris dust is likely to survive I hear. Although its organic (I can hear G2 shouting at me from here Laughing ) they can't afford the malarky to get it marketed and sold as such. Same as with Armillatox
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wardy wrote:
If you like killing caterpillars Laughing you can use Derris liquid or dust.
I'd prefer Tara's route as I'm not a natural born killer of anything.

Bun bun was on my plot on Sunday when I went with my husband. First time he's seen it and it's now fully grown. They grow up so fast these days don't they Laughing

Derris liquid is now defunct but only just so you might still be able to lay your hands on it. Derris dust is likely to survive I hear. Although its organic (I can hear G2 shouting at me from here Laughing ) they can't afford the malarky to get it marketed and sold as such. Same as with Armillatox




WRONG Derris powder is under a temp ban and Armillatox is illegal to use in the garden, I am not saying anything about organic just its use is banned. Tis the law.

I dont want to get in to row again

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here we go Very Happy

Armillatox might be banned for use in your garden. Defra don't rule my garden. How can there be a law that says I can't use it in my garden Confused You might not be able to use it in your garden but then you're registered under the Soil Assoc, I'm not.

I am not wrong about Derris dust Exclamation I spoke to our lotty supplier wholesaler chap just yesterday and he tells me that Vitax are in talks and it looks like this product might yet continue to be available for gardeners

So, ner Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been asking around and Derris might still be banned totally by EU.

Armillatox is only sold to clean paths, you are breaking the law by telling peeps its ok for the garden..



Pssttt Wardy grows her veg in coal dust Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh! gawd Rolling Eyes here we go again......
Dom, put your sequins on and grab your number placards....

DING DING.....round two,

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh! gawd Rolling Eyes here we go again......
Dom, put your sequins on and grab your number placards....

DING DING.....round two, rk01_box

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes

But anyway, I really really don't trust myself with pesticides Embarassed Shocked whether they're banned, not banned, about to be banned, should be banned Confused I think a Dom armed with a packet of chemicals would be dangerous indeed Shocked Shocked Shocked Laughing Wink

Am going to blast the eggs with soapy water Twisted Evil Shocked

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was gonna say that I just ordered soft soap for insect spraying for the lotties but then I expect that's been reclassified as a cleaner anorl. In fact I'm pretty sure it has but it doesn't matter as the insects don't know Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Caterpillars Reply with quote

SeedQueen wrote:
We are being plagued by the b****y things and I was wondering if there was an organic way to deal with them other than squishing them?


Chooks so I'm told !! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wardy wrote:
I was gonna say that I just ordered soft soap for insect spraying for the lotties but then I expect that's been reclassified as a cleaner anorl. In fact I'm pretty sure it has but it doesn't matter as the insects don't know Cool


Organic Gardening Catalogue still has this Wards so I don't think it's been reclassified as a cleaner yet Wink Laughing


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